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John has been brought up in the Christian faith.. One question he has always wanted to ask is if there is only one God why is it that in the Genesis God has always referred Himself as "We".

Daniel Fernandez "WE", He and us his children, no?
Monday at 7:11pm ·

Leslie Fernandez-Smith I think it means we all have god in us.
Monday at 7:12pm ·

Daniel Fernandez No, I think he just puts himself down to our level, He doesn't want to talk down to "us". He doesn't want to say ME and YOU people, instead "We" sounds better. Anyway, that's what I think, what do I know :)
Monday at 7:15pm ·

Daniel Fernandez ....but yes, we all have God in us.
Monday at 7:16pm ·

Peggy Johnson Maybe, Faith is all we need :)
Monday at 7:16pm ·

Rhonda A Bishop Rhodes God the Father and God the Son...son =Wisdom + Word = John 1:1 < Christ was the Word / Wisdom > there was Jehovah < Self -existant one -one that reveals > and then there was the Son of God < Wisdom > < Word > and their image < their likness > was LIGHT < Glory Power > Christ ... Man < male and female > were created in their likness = LIGHT .... ...

Monday at 7:41pm ·

Rhonda A Bishop Rhodes Christ came to earth draped in flesh to the manager...true humility .... and then on the 8th day when circumcised he received the name of Jesus ... thus he became Jesus Christ ....BUT Christ was with God the Father before this ever happened....
Monday at 7:49pm ·

Leslie Marley The old testiment God id just a singular entity-and the 10 comandments that Moses brought down specicly says there is only one god and there will be no other and do not make statues and idols to worship of human forms-golden idols. The Christians convieniently disposed of all of these rules!
Monday at 7:58pm ·

Rhonda A Bishop Rhodes Yes they do Leslie....they are not the 10 suggestions ...Happy Memorial Day to you !
Monday at 8:20pm ·

James Harwood The triune God, "we" - God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, has always existed.
Monday at 8:33pm ·

Bettie DuChemin Ellens @ Leslie_-I am a Christian and I make no idols. I worship the one true God. You really shouldnt make generalised statements like that. Do you know ALL christians? Do you know A LOT of REAL Bible-following Christians? Doesnt sound like it. Some of the "rules" (such as what to eat, etc) were deemed as not as important as loving one another by ...
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Monday at 8:37pm ·

John Potts This would be the statement of a MULTIBEING. Like all the cells in our body work for the common whole. A body social. A universe. Creation.

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Monday at 8:39pm ·

Leslie Marley Bettie what is a god and what isn't is different for many-that does not mean you need to get offended. Relax yhis is just a discussion.
Monday at 8:41pm ·

George O Hawkins Also, "Then God [Elohim - plural of El ] said, “Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness..."" - Gen 1:26
Good question John. I do think it is one God in 3 persons, as others have said.
Monday at 9:00pm ·

Michael Nickels-Wisdom To address the original questiion, JTC, the immediate answer from the Christian perspective is that God was speaking, for example in Genesis 1:26, as one being expressed as three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Hebrew word for "God" in this verse is "Elohim", which is a plural. Not speaking for Judaism here, since I am Christian, it ...
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Monday at 9:12pm ·

James Hannan Who knows?
Monday at 9:26pm ·

John Tiong Chunghoo Thanks everybody for the enthusiasm over this. I have also read the Quran and found that God in this Holy Book also refers to himself as "We".. Some of the verses - i hope i am reading the right translation - read - "We are as close to you as the veins on your neck" and "We can turn you into pigs if we want to".....Sorry for bringing up another religion here. But i have always interested in all religions.
Monday at 9:44pm ·

Gary Swafford Sounds like God thinks of himself as being more "inclusive" than a lot of people do...hmmm.
Monday at 9:52pm ·

Lorraine Margueritte Gasrel Black Have you ever read the Book of Enoch or heard of the Kumara legend?The legend predates Genesis and part of the Book Of Enoch can be read in the Old Testament.The "WE" refers to the group of Souls/Angelic Beings who appeared on this planet long before humankind could stand upright and think and speak.The Nephilim were partly responsible for the ...
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Monday at 9:56pm ·

Lorraine Margueritte Gasrel Black If you get a chance to read this book I recommend THE TRUTH BEHIND THE CHRIST MYTH:and The Redemption Of The Peacock Angel by Mark Amaru Pinkham..it's quite a mind opener.
Monday at 10:00pm ·

John Tiong Chunghoo Wow, yes Lorraine I have heard about that through a television programme but it was too complex for me to understand..there was the talk about a heavenly war...and all that..I really must get hold of the Book of Enoch. Wonder it is available through Amazon.
Monday at 10:00pm ·

Lorraine Margueritte Gasrel Black Yes as a matter of fact I get all my books from Amazon.
Monday at 10:01pm ·

John Tiong Chunghoo Do you really trust all that you read Lorraine.
Monday at 10:02pm ·

Lorraine Margueritte Gasrel Black The Kumara Legend has a website.That's how I found them.I can spend hours researching on Wikipedia and related sites.That's something I do besides cleaning house,writing poetry or playing games.
Monday at 10:04pm ·

John Tiong Chunghoo I will go to the local boostore to see whether i can get anything about the Kumara legend. Thank you Lorraine and please keep on exploring...about God.
Monday at 10:06pm ·

Madeleine Ann Eugenie McMahon And the Angels battled before the Throne.... Leave it to you John. Don't you know that their are three taboos in conversation, religion, religion and religion. LOL :-).
Monday at 10:21pm ·

John Tiong Chunghoo it is true but every must be matured enough not to lose their heads when talking about the issue. that's why we need people with brain here. not those who think others should believe what they believe.
Monday at 10:38pm ·

Lorraine Margueritte Gasrel Black @Madeleine,we can hold a discourse on any subject matter.That's what Freedom Of Speech is about.The Holy Bible was written by many contributing authors and then revised over the centuries until the book that is read from today became the accepted version.The books removed from the original canon can be read in the Dead Sea Scrolls,in part and the...
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Monday at 10:49pm ·

Hank Edinburgh That's a very interesting question!
Monday at 10:59pm ·

George O Hawkins Michael: The Jewish Publication Society Tanakh reads almost identical to the NASB for Gen 1:26.
Monday at 11:35pm ·

Edgar Gary Quah Legion...The dark demon refered himself as "we"...cause"we are many"....Nuff said...
Monday at 11:45pm ·

John Potts An interesting topic.

"WE" : The imminent spirit of Creation (God). Invigorating all It's formal constuents (MULTIBEIVG, which you, dear reader, are one mote, the Sun another, Milky Way another - and all the component part..s and so on).

NOTE: The Torah forms the first 5 chunks of Christian bible. The Koran is a branch of Christianity, which is a...
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Yesterday at 12:06am ·

Anne Smith 3 in 1
Yesterday at 12:32am ·

Anne Smith even then
Yesterday at 12:33am ·

John Potts This is why haiku, John.

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Yesterday at 12:38am ·

John Tiong Chunghoo Jesus tried to reform the corrupt Jewish spiritual council but failed in his life time. Another religion was born instead.Koran the Muslims believe is God setting straight once and for all, the inaccuracies of the two other religions.
Yesterday at 12:45am ·

John Tiong Chunghoo It however went on to say followers of the other two faiths will also be saved if they live a good life.
Yesterday at 1:00am ·

John Tiong Chunghoo Faith should be freedom itself....one should follow whichever faith one is drawn to I think so.
Yesterday at 1:01am ·

Michael Nickels-Wisdom John, regarding your most recent post, I quite agree. Of course, how Muslims see Christian faith and how Christians see Christian faith differ. We don't see that Jesus failed, but that he intentionally died and resurrected, with an eye to a different kind of success, one in the human heart.
Yesterday at 1:39am ·

Michael Nickels-Wisdom George, thanks for this. It's an example of why I have been so drawn to the NASB for so long: it prefers to stay close to the structure of the original languages.
Yesterday at 1:41am ·

James Hannan Me too. Huston Smith "The World's Religions"; Karen Armstrong "The Case for
God"; Jennifer Michael Hecht "The History of Doubt"; all of Rodney
Stark's; Richard Dawkins "The God Delusion"; Harold Bloom "Omens of Millennium"; et al. Yes, all.............................
Yesterday at 1:41am via Email Reply ·

Bettie DuChemin Ellens Yes, John Potts....exactly.
Yesterday at 2:09am via Email Reply ·

Rositza Pironska Every faith and religion give you different feelings, when you know them, you cant separate one from the other, you need all of them.
Yesterday at 2:12am ·

James Hannan But John - consider what God said to Moses from the Burning Bush: "I Am, tell them I Am sent you." Not: We are. And Jesus said: "Before Abraham came to be, I Am."
God Is.
Yesterday at 7:39am ·

Lorraine Margueritte Gasrel Black The I AM presence,the great universal life force shared by all living beings..found in Buddhism ,known as OM and predates all the other religions except Hinduism. or the other way around depending on who you debate with..The Kumara Legend goes way back into the B.C.s and even predates the Bon religion..absorbed by Buddhism.And the Egyotians.God's ...
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Yesterday at 8:07am ·

John Tiong Chunghoo Ow Lorraine, a well of knowledge of religion. congrats.
Yesterday at 8:52am ·

Bettie DuChemin Ellens Leslie, a simple discussion becomes offensive when one person (you, in this case) claims to know everything about the beliefs of a large group of people and presents that (often inaccurate) information in a way that portrays the group in a derogatory light. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Disrespect begets offense.
Yesterday at 10:11am via Email Reply ·

John Tiong Chunghoo Frist thanks for taking part in this meaningful discussion. It has been a wonderful discovery for me because of the invaluable input of information and knowledge. However, John would love some participants here to calm down please. To really take part in a sensitive discussion like this one must have the maturity to first respect how each other do their religion. Otherwise, they have better stay away because it would lead to fight which is exactly what this
discussion wishes to avoid.
Yesterday at 10:57am ·

Michael Nickels-Wisdom Thanks, John.
Yesterday at 12:06pm ·

Lorraine Margueritte Gasrel Black Religious topics are always a "hot potatoe".You should read what goes on in the Amazon religion forums.I used to participate on the forums from various websites and someone invariable gets huffy and puffy.We set up a rule to agree to disagree with out resulting in the total annihalation of each others' view points...and be civil in discussion.
We can learn from each other by sharing information and the best way to learn about a religion is to talk to someone who is a member of said path or to "walk a mile in that person's faith"in other words join for awhile..if it's not right for you then walk another path but remember what you learned from your experience..If it's right for you then stay with that belief system...or incorporate the ideas as part of your life philosophy.
I personally enjoy learning from everything.My innate curiosity has taken places where Angels fear to tread and there are some very remarkable revelations and knowledge from my esoteric study of the Occult.Occult means hidden knowledge.You just have to keep an open mind and periodically empty the vessel so it can be filled again with new knowledge.
Two good places for research are crystal links.com and Beliefnet.com.All About.com carries information about many topics.All of the aforemention sites are really good starting places for spiritual education.Enjoy the path of ENLIGHTENMENT...It begins within.
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The I AM presence,the great universal life force shared by all living beings..found in Buddhism ,known as OM and predates all the other religions except Hinduism. or the other way around depending on who you debate with..The Kumara Legend goes way back into the B.C.s and even predates the Bon religion..absorbed by Buddhism.And the Egyotians.God's original name was EL which is why the Angels' names all end in EL ...El-O-Him.Islam is the newest branch of the Abrahamic faiths and Judaism is the oldest.Islam did not evolve from Christianity.Islam was initially a uniting factor of the Arabic/Persian tribes developing in the 600s A.D. until the assassination of Mohamed's heir.Then it split into two factions: the Suny and Sh--ites.There are splinter groups like the Yezedis ,Zoroastrians and Pharsis of modern day Iran ,and Aramaic speaking groups who are actually minorities that incorporate much more ancient teachings than found in the Qu'ran/Koran and they include all Abrahamic teachings.


"WE" : The imminent spirit of Creation (God). Invigorating all It's formal constuents (MULTIBEIVG, which you, dear reader, are one mote, the Sun another, Milky Way another - and all the component part..s and so on).

NOTE: The Torah forms the first 5 chunks of Christian bible. The Koran is a branch of Christianity, which is a branch of Judaism, which is a branch of the ancient mysteries of Mesopotamia, some say. How complex, for a universal daity who is closer to us all than our sleeping breath!

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Yesterday at 12:06am ·

Lorraine Margueritte Gasrel Black @Madeleine,we can hold a discourse on any subject matter.That's what Freedom Of Speech is about.The Holy Bible was written by many contributing authors and then revised over the centuries until the book that is read from today became the accepted version.The books removed from the original canon can be read in the Dead Sea Scrolls,in part and the APROCAPHYA.I recommend reading:THE OTHER BIBLE by Willis Gladstone,for a general introduction.There is nothing wrong with knowledge and experience.This is how we become wise.Each one of us has the "GOD-GIVEN" Rght to learn about anything if we choose to do so.It's the responsibilty of the individual to accept what that person feels is the right path and view to take in that person's life.Otherwords it's personal choice.My country was founded on the principle of FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
Monday at 10:49pm ·

Michael Nickels-Wisdom To address the original questiion, JTC, the immediate answer from the Christian perspective is that God was speaking, for example in Genesis 1:26, as one being expressed as three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Hebrew word for "God" in this verse is "Elohim", which is a plural. Not speaking for Judaism here, since I am Christian, it seems to me that the sense of "Elohim" and its accompanying pronouns is of deference and as a superlative way of speaking; this isn't so very far from the popular idea of the way royal persons refer to themselves and may even be the source of royal usage. Does this answer seem cohesive?
Monday at 9:12pm ·

Bettie DuChemin Ellens @ Leslie_-I am a Christian and I make no idols. I worship the one true God. You really shouldnt make generalised statements like that. Do you know ALL christians? Do you know A LOT of REAL Bible-following Christians? Doesnt sound like it. Some of the "rules" (such as what to eat, etc) were deemed as not as important as loving one another by Christ in the New Testiment, but we are still expected to follow ALL of God's commands. Anyone who does not do that or thinks otherwise is NOT really a Christian. The book of Genesis (OLD TESTIMENT), translated, does say "Let US make man in OUR image;" however this refers (most believe) to a Holy Trinity...three parts of ONE God...not more than one God. No Christian, no matter how far or close they are from God, thinks there is more than one God. A little research goes a much longer way than just being generalising and, frankly, a bit offensive.
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